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		<title>By: Clint Lalonde</title>
		<link>http://clintlalonde.net/2010/03/16/facilitating-a-distributed-discussion-an-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-3334</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint Lalonde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments Randy. I guess being compelled to dive into a discussion, wether in person or online, is primarily driven by the feeling that you have something to add to the conversation. While it is true that online doesn&#039;t have the same tactile clues that f2f interaction does, there are still clues for participation. Perhaps these are more explicit (say a direct question from a facilitator like &quot;what do you think&quot; to prompt participation), but those signals are there. The very fact someone has a blog that allows comments is a good signal that they want you to participate. 
 
As for group dynamics and belongingness, I believe that online discussions have these characteristics - in buckets. For example, one online group I belong to is The Voyageurs, which are the supporters of the Canadian mens national soccer team. Many of these people have never met, but the forums are a hugely lively place with plenty of group dynamics (both positive and negative). And there is a huge sense of belonging hinging on the fact that we all have a common interest - soccer in Canada. When I first started hanging out in those forums, I lurked for the better part of a year before I felt compelled to jump in and make my first post. But in that year, I didn&#039;t feel like an outsider. In fact, my lurking taught me a great deal about the dynamics of the forum, how it worked, who were the people and what the etiquette of the forum was. In short, while lurking I was forming a sense of what the social expectations for participation were for posting members. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments Randy. I guess being compelled to dive into a discussion, wether in person or online, is primarily driven by the feeling that you have something to add to the conversation. While it is true that online doesn&#039;t have the same tactile clues that f2f interaction does, there are still clues for participation. Perhaps these are more explicit (say a direct question from a facilitator like &quot;what do you think&quot; to prompt participation), but those signals are there. The very fact someone has a blog that allows comments is a good signal that they want you to participate. </p>
<p>As for group dynamics and belongingness, I believe that online discussions have these characteristics &#8211; in buckets. For example, one online group I belong to is The Voyageurs, which are the supporters of the Canadian mens national soccer team. Many of these people have never met, but the forums are a hugely lively place with plenty of group dynamics (both positive and negative). And there is a huge sense of belonging hinging on the fact that we all have a common interest &#8211; soccer in Canada. When I first started hanging out in those forums, I lurked for the better part of a year before I felt compelled to jump in and make my first post. But in that year, I didn&#039;t feel like an outsider. In fact, my lurking taught me a great deal about the dynamics of the forum, how it worked, who were the people and what the etiquette of the forum was. In short, while lurking I was forming a sense of what the social expectations for participation were for posting members.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint Lalonde</title>
		<link>http://clintlalonde.net/2010/03/16/facilitating-a-distributed-discussion-an-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-3333</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint Lalonde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steve, 
 
Thank you so much for your participation this past week. You were a brilliant host for the discussion and your willingness to comment and carry the conversation forward on your blog was greatly appreciated. With your help we had a very succesful week and, I think, we able to demonstrate the value of networked learning. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve, </p>
<p>Thank you so much for your participation this past week. You were a brilliant host for the discussion and your willingness to comment and carry the conversation forward on your blog was greatly appreciated. With your help we had a very succesful week and, I think, we able to demonstrate the value of networked learning.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://clintlalonde.net/2010/03/16/facilitating-a-distributed-discussion-an-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-3322</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All, I&#039;m very pleased that one of the blogposts you chosen to discuss and post comments to is mine. At least you aren&#039;t lurking or loafing! :-) I hope you all found the article useful and thought provoking... and thanks for the comments. Keep up the good work guys!  
My recent post &lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/cYWZ/~3/BcVdiZNJ9Ps/world-health-20.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;World Health 2.0&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All, I&#039;m very pleased that one of the blogposts you chosen to discuss and post comments to is mine. At least you aren&#039;t lurking or loafing! :-) I hope you all found the article useful and thought provoking&#8230; and thanks for the comments. Keep up the good work guys!<br />
My recent post <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/cYWZ/~3/BcVdiZNJ9Ps/world-health-20.html" target="_blank">World Health 2.0</a></p>
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		<title>By: rjoutnorth</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjoutnorth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, Joe, Amir, and Chi are in a room and a conversation is in progress. Sam, Joe, and Amir are actively talking about on-line learning and the isolation factor for learners that sitting in front of a computer screen might foster. Chi is listening to the conversation and nods occasionally but does not vocalize. Upon some revelation Sam, Joe, and Amir look at Chi anticipating a comment, and Chi does vocalize. The conversation continues with an occasional comment from Chi primarily induced by the other three using social nuances to retrieve input. 
 
Deb, Jo, Bao, and Riya are each at home on-line reading a forum that discusses learning styles. Deb, Jo, and Bao all post some comments. All four reflect on the postings and some more dialogue ensues. However Riya does not post. Deb, noticing Riya is on-line, opens a chat session and the two of them discuss the forum. At some point Riya may post to the forum or she may be satisfied to have read the forum and chatted with Deb.  
 
My point: the on-line environment does not embody the face-to-face interactions, social expectations, visual cues, group dynamics, or belongingness. Am I really a part of this forum&#8217;s conversation? I am not receiving any tactile feedback, or encouraging glances. As a self-confessed lurker I am not compelled to jump into a forum and express my thoughts while in-person I am more compelled, primarily by social awareness, to respond and participate.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, Joe, Amir, and Chi are in a room and a conversation is in progress. Sam, Joe, and Amir are actively talking about on-line learning and the isolation factor for learners that sitting in front of a computer screen might foster. Chi is listening to the conversation and nods occasionally but does not vocalize. Upon some revelation Sam, Joe, and Amir look at Chi anticipating a comment, and Chi does vocalize. The conversation continues with an occasional comment from Chi primarily induced by the other three using social nuances to retrieve input. </p>
<p>Deb, Jo, Bao, and Riya are each at home on-line reading a forum that discusses learning styles. Deb, Jo, and Bao all post some comments. All four reflect on the postings and some more dialogue ensues. However Riya does not post. Deb, noticing Riya is on-line, opens a chat session and the two of them discuss the forum. At some point Riya may post to the forum or she may be satisfied to have read the forum and chatted with Deb.  </p>
<p>My point: the on-line environment does not embody the face-to-face interactions, social expectations, visual cues, group dynamics, or belongingness. Am I really a part of this forum&rsquo;s conversation? I am not receiving any tactile feedback, or encouraging glances. As a self-confessed lurker I am not compelled to jump into a forum and express my thoughts while in-person I am more compelled, primarily by social awareness, to respond and participate.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint Lalonde</title>
		<link>http://clintlalonde.net/2010/03/16/facilitating-a-distributed-discussion-an-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-3313</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint Lalonde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting how my perception of the word &quot;lurker&quot; has changed over the years. In the beginning I did see it as a negative, but in the past few years I see it more akin to &quot;listener&quot; than &quot;lurker&quot;. Mind you, I often engage in this behaviour myself...fly under the radar until I feel comfortable and have a sense of a groups or teams identity and where I might fit in. 
 
I think this gets back to a point Jamie makes in her reply to Steve around the language used to describe these behaviours is important. Listener doesn&#039;t sound as negative as lurker.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s interesting how my perception of the word &quot;lurker&quot; has changed over the years. In the beginning I did see it as a negative, but in the past few years I see it more akin to &quot;listener&quot; than &quot;lurker&quot;. Mind you, I often engage in this behaviour myself&#8230;fly under the radar until I feel comfortable and have a sense of a groups or teams identity and where I might fit in. </p>
<p>I think this gets back to a point Jamie makes in her reply to Steve around the language used to describe these behaviours is important. Listener doesn&#039;t sound as negative as lurker.</p>
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		<title>By: @Emmadw</title>
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		<dc:creator>@Emmadw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sylvia pointed me here from SCoPE ... seeing your reference to Steve&#039;s &#039;lurking or loafing&#039;  post reminded me of a discussion I had with a friend about a (socially based) email list - and the idea of &#039;listeners&#039; - just as in a classroom debate, we have some people who prefer to listen, synthesise (&amp; often come up with the one line gems at the end of the session). 
 
They can help to summarise the whole discussion. But, there&#039;s a tendency - especialyl at the start, to assume they&#039;re lurking, not listening.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sylvia pointed me here from SCoPE &#8230; seeing your reference to Steve&#039;s &#039;lurking or loafing&#039;  post reminded me of a discussion I had with a friend about a (socially based) email list &#8211; and the idea of &#039;listeners&#039; &#8211; just as in a classroom debate, we have some people who prefer to listen, synthesise (&amp; often come up with the one line gems at the end of the session). </p>
<p>They can help to summarise the whole discussion. But, there&#039;s a tendency &#8211; especialyl at the start, to assume they&#039;re lurking, not listening.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint Lalonde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint Lalonde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! I hear ya, Pam and live it everyday...I am a victim of continuous partial attenti - oh wait, was that a new tweet? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! I hear ya, Pam and live it everyday&#8230;I am a victim of continuous partial attenti &#8211; oh wait, was that a new tweet?</p>
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		<title>By: Pam Joyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 03:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Lalonde, way to go - every time I intend to engage in the distributed discussion, I end up visiting the links you&#039;ve provided here!  I just shared the &quot;... best practices for video assignments&quot; with the staff at my school.  What is it they say about the affect technology has regarding time on task?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Lalonde, way to go &#8211; every time I intend to engage in the distributed discussion, I end up visiting the links you&#039;ve provided here!  I just shared the &quot;&#8230; best practices for video assignments&quot; with the staff at my school.  What is it they say about the affect technology has regarding time on task?</p>
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		<title>By: Clint Lalonde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint Lalonde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We didn&#039;t get into managing comments and setting up alerts mostly because we don&#039;t have a ton of time to do this. It&#039;s a pretty compressed assignment (one week), so we just told them to check back over the course of the week for responses and, if possible, follow up on their comments manually. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We didn&#39;t get into managing comments and setting up alerts mostly because we don&#39;t have a ton of time to do this. It&#39;s a pretty compressed assignment (one week), so we just told them to check back over the course of the week for responses and, if possible, follow up on their comments manually.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvia Currie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvia Currie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following along with great interest! Will each participant manage their access to the discussion on their own (subscribing to comment feeds, alerts to new replies, etc), or are you facilitating that for them? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following along with great interest! Will each participant manage their access to the discussion on their own (subscribing to comment feeds, alerts to new replies, etc), or are you facilitating that for them?</p>
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